There is a reason why this is Berettas top Pocket gun. Baby glocks seem like an attractive option as at least they have a somewhat normal trigger w/ a normal length of pull. Texas Teens Getting Carry Licenses! Three weeks before it was even released. How is the pot metal Cobra #2? I also have the Kahr. I got a Glock26, and have been happy ever since! IMHO it packs a great punch for a pistol that slips away in my pocket. I broke the firing pin on the first day. I appreciate the review. Do you perhaps have a very early one? Im guessing a .40 S&W round is just too unpleasant to shoot in this uber lightweight polymer-framed pocket gun. I certainly wouldnt be happy. Im not saying every single person who votes needs to leave a full, detailed review, but encouraging people to at least leave a couple pros/cons would be most helpful. The small NAA revolvers make a good back up weapon, I own three of the little guns. My Airweight has been dehorned and edges softened, carries so comfortably with a Hip Grip that I often forget about it. Or has been suggested earlier you can just go snub nosed revolver. Their guns get copied because George Kelgren never copyrighted the designs. Ive never seen one that ran well or was anything but unpleasant to shoot, provided you can get more than one round off without a misfeed. A 380 is about as wide as a 9mm. However it is about 1/2 as powerful, 1/2 the weight and velocity. For a very long time 9mm was considered the rock You mean like the crowd of voters that put Obama in office twice. Most people who love the P3-AT just carry it but dont use it. Try the Sig P938 If you are truly carrying for protection you dont mind the Sig Price if your life is on the line and the P938 shoots like a minature 1911 Love mine and have had several friends buy them after shooting my P938 SAS. Caveat: I bought mine used, so I dont know if the previous owner had done any tweaking to get it that reliable or not, or whether a factory-fresh one would need any sort of break-in period. This crowdsourced data points arent perfect, but if a product gets a statistically significant number of votes, we get a pretty good idea of how it stacks up thanks to the wisdom-of-crowds phenomenon. My SCCY CPX-2 has been absolutely accurate with never a malfunction of any kind. If you spend any amount of time online, youve seen product rating systems on Amazon, Netflix, Yelp, etc., usually in the form of star ratings. They know media though. Kahr CW 380. I had issues with mine to start. My Kahr is a nice but, but Finicky as heck. Zero malfunctions in 300 rounds including pocket lint coverings. Just being a bashing b**** , gets you nowhere. LMFAO!!!! The double 1911 also has ratings. Kahr makes a lot of pocket guns, and several of them rate really well. All of this list (for the most part) are price point guns and no, you will not get HK quality for $200, but this list is about as fanboy as anything I have ever seen on here. 400 rounds! Did it require a break in, a fluff & buff, a whole plethora of different ammo to get my approval? One for range and one for carry. Probably ran 150 round through it so far. And of course not break down like they do with high volume shooting. Double strike capability, Magazines all stainless that look like custom 1911 mags. There really is NO WAY to know if the rating is based on a real, objective assessment of the firearm. You can read about well known problems on reddit, Amazon, etc, for ranknings and customer ratings abuse. Yea James, if you look the SCCY gets like 4.3 stars the best out of this bunch and has the one of the higest vote stats and whats the comment from the author oh this gun stinks based on what? Got the Hellcat thrown in when I bought another gun. Worst complaint is the trigger, but a lot of dry fires with snap caps and you condition yourself to the long reset. Unless you can document that, I think you are off base posting what is basically a rumor. I called the factory and was accused of limp wristing. But with 99 votes in, the math is clear: the CPX-2 stinks. customer service should you need it that transfers with the gun. Thats a problem for a pocket gun. Its not that the gun is too small, its that the trigger is much too close to the tiny grip. A local guy shot a home invader with a SCCY. That said, I have never tried to pocket-carry one so Im not voting on it in terms of that specific criteria. I have shot the Pico with thousands of rounds and can honestly say I have Never had ONE single failure out of thousands of rounds. While larger .380 pistols such as the Walther PPK/S, Walther PK380, Bersa Thunder 380, and Glock 42 dont have this problem, the truly small pocket pistols such as the LCP and TCP most certainly do. I love this gun for the price, and just because its not made by Glock means nothing to me. good amount of rounds it is a damn good carry gun. Remarkable build quality. I really wanted to like the gun. HICKCOCK45 SAID OF THE PICO I really like this trigger. Sure, I can see how many people liked or didnt like a firearm, but more important than that is the REASON they voted the way they did. Wanted to check to see if my comments really apply to your site, and it looks like your server is in melt-down. They never protected their early designs/. You can get these on line at times for check the ammo?? My dad bought a CPX-whichever has the safety about a month ago; Ill have to ask him what he thinks of it next time we talk. Of course the gun was the new upgraded model. Anyway, all just my opinion here. Ive got a CPX-2 and a Hellcat. In regards to the Cobra a lot of people dissing the gun are those who fire hollowpoints through it. The biggest improvement, by far, is the trigger pull. Yeah, apparently without the server capacity to handle the resulting load increase, too. My Gosh folks, this is total BS, read the directions. Lets find out by comparing it to the original LCP. Have owned and shot most of them. I had an occasional ejection glitch in mine when I first got it, but the company paid to have it shipped back to them for adjustment, and the piece hasnt hiccupped a single time, since. The CPX-2 fails to fully eject one shell per magazine. Whatever-everything else pops inand their FB page is odd too. I am no statistician but most of the sample sizes were very small. Its elegant lines and precision engineering have a timeless appeal. My son made sure I carried a SW9VE for daily use. Those were the worst. I would very much like to see your proof/examples. Prohibition: Why It Wouldnt Work Any Better With Guns Than It Did With Alcohol, Defendant Agrees Appeals Court Should Uphold Injunction Blocking New Yorks Law Banning Carrying Guns in Sensitive Places, Judge Robert L. Miller: Its an Insult to the Founders to Assume They Didnt Expect Gun Control in Future Generations. Jimenez was one former name for Cobra also Loren was also a former name . By the way, break down the Kahr and compare it to the Pico. I have thousands of rounds through the Picos and trust me, they hold up like the tank they are. Web.380 pocket pistols have a well-deserved reputation for having some of the worst trigger pulls of any semi-automatic pistols on the market. I was glad not to see Kel Tac on the bottom list. For their size they are accurate but these are not range guns (especially the CM40). Ruger sought out to remedy much of these problems with the LCP II. (3) Often in the comment sections of user reviews online, you see stuff being dinged a star or two from superfluous stuff. I wouldnt go smaller than a Glock 27 in .40 the recoil is too snappy. They are meant to be defensive arms that can be easily carried in the pocket. When he says the People have spoken who the heck is that? Web.380 Automatic Colt Pistol (ACP) was one of the many calibers created by legendary firearms designer John Browning, dating back to 1908. Those small NAA revolvers you have to learn how to safely load and unload. When you insert a fresh magazine, it will be easier to rack the slide this way as well. To send it back would cost to much and the internet dealer would not stand behind it !! I have a SCCY too. Even the author of this article merely speculates, at times, as to why the readers voted as they did. Actually bought a second one. Fan boys gotta fan boy, and critics gotta criticize. You have not spoken to anyone that has something positive to say about the Pico? ! Silver tip p+ for carry, or whatever local law enforcement carries. Actually the design was made so that the magazine would not pop out on firing like other small pocket guns are guilty of, use the release correctly and it is a breeze. Split chassis, cracked frames, split rails, broken take down pins. Its not. You also do not understand how to use the mag release or what it is intended for. BUT! Did they succeed? These guns shoot any ammo I have fed it. Also it would be great to know if the people voting own the guns they are rating and/or if they have ever shot them. In light of that, the valuable service you claim hes doing may well be smoke and mirrors. I sell guns and have ZERO hesitation about selling someone a CPX-2 for everyday carry. No problem for me but then I have fired well over 100,000 rounds in 50 years. Stainless steel throughout the gun. Personally, I only go by in person reviews, in this internet age, from people proven trustworthy. When I hear someone put down the Pico, I know they do not shoot often. BTW except for the cobra all these little guns got good reviews at various timesFWIW. We buy a pocket gun for last-ditch self defense, which literally makes it a do-or-die gun. Yep and they give AKs a bad name with how terrible theirs are. If you are going to run a wisdom of crowds review site I think you really ought to take a note from them, because we ALL know the crowd can also be incredibly stupid, especially when hiding behind the anonymity of a keyboard. Really it sounds like some pretty crappy customer service. The problem with the group wisdom line of thinking is that you cannot separate the people with actual hands on experience with the firearm in question from actual users, which is always a problem with new guns. Got over 1000 rounds through it, and no problems. In a fight you wont notice it. Did anybody take the poor performing guns to a reputable gunsmith and have them tuned up? If you use ratings to determine which gun works or doesnt work for you, you are a fool. Also you gotta test the ammo you intend to use. In fact, reading them, even with comments, is quite nearly a waste of time. So I returned it to them, they replaced several worn parts and returned it. It shot pretty well overall, but the trigger sucked. Stainless steel through out the gun. like any gun it can have its issues so can the SCCY but if you really look at it, compact light and Its is almost universally panned from young guys working behind the counter at Academy Sports to anyone who works in local gun shops. Ive seen tons of positive reviews of the CPX2. Total joke. This list would have been more valid if it had included the KIMBER SOLO, This website is better than the comedy channel. Thanks for your post. They are all solid, dependable, and reliable. As a back-up weapon to a larger pistol, the LCP II would also be a great choice as it has a very similar manual of arms to larger pistols such as Glocks while also being small enough to easily conceal carry as we have just seen. Shocking that an IO Inc product is at the bottom of the barrel. They claimed to have test fired it after repair. I have a brand new Cobra that has never fired a shot ! I love my CPX-1. My God, have you really shot or even handled one? Thus it works as a safety (just like a S&W revolver). There is nothing copyrightable in those designs. I dont know the story behind why but we can only guess. How do they perform? Im not going to bash talk the CPX-2 , but its going to take me a while to get use to it. The Pico is a great gun. Its fun to shoot really, PS: visited the site again, feeling slightly guilty for harping on the polling validity-. To start with they sat on it for 2 whole years teasing a release and it just kept getting pushed back further and further. Sorry, but NOT my Kahr. According to our peers, here are the six worst pocketguns, from less awful to worstest. Everyones hand size and perception of recoil is different and therein lies the beauty of having choice. None. Do it outside with the gun pointing at the ground and mind your hand positions. (Though they have better triggers than the early LCPs, thats not enough), You should try mine. Its manageable. Funny the SCCY was rated on 2 other surveys as one of the top 5 affordable and reliable pocket guns. +1. After this 1911 bill gets passed, Ill be carrying a 1911. . SRP: $269. And then the gall to refer to Jeremy who by the way did not bother to report that the upgraded model fixed all the issues with the first run. Man, all I can say is when you mentioned the Pico, you sure messed up on that one. Stovepiped and double fed left and right, and Kel-Tec didnt want to lift a finger without me footing the bill for shipping. Like others, I am a bit surprised by the poor showing of the Beretta. Why people follow them is a mystery. Small, accurate and reliable. It is also the only 10 shot 9mm you can find that is truly small enough to pocket carry. For those of you looking specifically for a concealed carry pistol, hold off on buying a Glock just yet. Jed Henson runs the handgun review and rating site gunsgunsguns.net. The Mary Rosh controversy (where Lott used that pseudonym to answer critics and to post one favorable review of More Guns Less Crime) is discussed. Fed, fired and ejected all the ammo I put in it. the Truth about Guns is one of the most biased groups around. I found that many mags for the Hellcat where not cut properly with too much play at the catch. It jammed after the first shot, but he hit the intruder in the chest. It just goes into endless redirects until your browser gives up on it. Most of the post are from newbies that know very little about guns in the first place. Its on the edge of what Id consider using for self-defense, but Id recommend trying to move up to 9mm if possible. Yes, Im sure theyre out there, but the odds youll score one of those unicorns remain low. I tried to get Gunsgunsguns.net to pop up-no dice in 5 or 6 tries. Granted, .380 pocket autos are not guns that you take to the range for fun. Sold it and picked up an LCP off a friend for $150. For its purpose, NOT Bullseye competition, it is a fine gun. But still, Im sure there are worse ones. The warranty cant be beat. There is an author named John Lott, who became a best seller from an unknown very quickly by doing exactly that. I chose. The thing stinks. Kim Kardashian and POTUS are best two examples of known abuse. No thanks. What really won me over was the quality and operation, even on the bargain CM. The Ring of Fire guns are small, super 72 people have given the Arsenal Strike 1 a mediocre rating. The trigger reset does suck but its still a great gun. As long as you shoot the recommended ammo and keep your weapon cleaned, oiled properly, and replace any defective parts you will get much better performance. And with 38 other semi-auto pocketguns to choose from, why risk it? In 2017, SIG Sauer produced a unicorn of a pistol in the P365. That right there should have indicated that something was up when they feature it at a SHOT SHOW and it takes 2 years to finally put it out for sale. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. The CM9 is a great gun. Sleek design, totally snag proof. The Pico is one of the most mild shooting pocket guns you will ever shoot. I cant count on my DB380 to run consistently, so I had to give it a low rating. .380 Automatic Colt Pistol (ACP) This ammunition round was first introduced by Colt back in 1908, to use in its new Colt Model 1908, which was a compact, hammerless semi-automatic pistol. This article was total BS. lol Damon really? In other words, its not pleasant to shot at all. Anonymous reviews should be taken VERY suspiciouslyof all product, not just guns. ONE STAR FOR YOU! kind of reviews. Who knew a firearm could actually be worse? Yes, the LCP II is still a .380 pocket pistol and as a result is still snappy. The very concealable gun has a barrel length of only 2.5 inches. (1) Astroturfing happens, both ways. And a PPK has the solid feel of pure quality. Overall, the trigger on the LCP II makes it infinitely easier to shoot than the original LCP. Its not a range gun, and should not be treated as such. I love mine(CPX 2,no safety) Best carry gun for your dollar bar none. Any failure rates? And with gloves on, even the skin tight shooting gloves, it was impossible to get the trigger to reset without removing my finger from the trigger guard completely, or using my support hand to manually push it forward far enough to reset. Why Beretta didnt copy the ergonomics on that is a mystery to me. Unlike several riflesOh wait I might get a 22mag but not for big money. When it comes to a worst list omitting anything made by Kel Tec is a mistake. This gun looks a whole lot like the Ruger LCP and Kel-Tec P-3AT. Theyve reportedly improved it in newer model LCPs. You got to be a rookie. Sure just You must not even be able to read. Trash. But if carry options are limited to just a pocket carry for you (i.e. No problems when used within its limits. It is my bicycle gun. Still, if youre looking for a all purpose value like pistol then look no further (hesk Ive seen them for $200 NIB out the doorAnd yes, Kel-Tec got copied yet again! People cant make crap up in their comments? .380 pocket pistols are traditionally difficult to fire for a number of reasons: in addition to the horrid trigger pulls like we just discussed, they also suffer from being extremely snappy due to their small size. I know I hated my PF9 and would NEVER EVER buy any Keltec pistol again. The stats of the survey may need to be expanded on as well but for the most part would not own any of the others either, just my opinion. Standing out as one of the smallest on this list, Kahr isnt a I experienced none of that with my p3at but it was entertaining to read. Safe, small, and gives me some measure of security I wouldnt have without it. I. I fire a couple of magazines a month thru them so as not to get too rusty . Unfortunately, my DB380 experience has mirrored that ofmany of our peers. We even joked that we needed to start a Pocket Gun Palma match. Ive owned a CPX 2 for about a year and we shoot every weekend. Certainly it should appear on the Wikipedia page. Very very inconsistent across the board for everything they make to not be considered really bad. And probably never fired one. Go to the Beretta form Pico and the gun is loved by many. I also Have the Kahr CW380 nice guy but finicky on ammo. Given how clannish and brand-loyal a lot of gunners are, it wouldnt shock me if about half the votes against the SCCY were cast because it wasnt a Glock 43, or something equally biased and stupid. Well, Taurus only makes one gun that really meets the pocket pistol criteria set forth in the article. How so? In fact, yanking the mag should tell him to learn the gun. And for sure never shot one. Oh well the TCP I had isnt top 5-it ran good for me. Thats when I could get them to respond to my emails, that is. Its that bad. In contrast to this, the original LCP did not lock back on the final round. That would be TTAG, and a handful of others. First of all I do have the Kahr and like the gun very much. I have SCCY CPX2 Best gun ever Just keep it clean 400 rounds down range 400 rounds on target Ill bet my life on my cpx2. But this article should be called Articles to avoid like the Plague. I like its feel in my hand. And just recently bought my Third Pico. However it is not any where near the build quality of the Beretta Pico. I am a Pocket gun enthusiast. I bought a SCCY CPX-2 a few months ago . I love shooting it, and I get closer groups than with my Kel-Tec P-11. I think it would have to be the 2mm Kolibri. Its the worlds smallest handgun, and develops just 4 joules of muzzle energy. Its not a joke weapon And buying likes is one definite way to abuse it. We saw your review and write up. There are two primary uses for the LCP II: concealed carry and/or as a back-up pistol. Im generally a fan of .40, though it does have a bit of a signature snap. 400 hundred rounds of various FMJ and hollow points without a single failure. And BTW, the gunsgunsguns link doesnt work. But, it doesnt like to be dirty. And I have not shot one better then these in the same weight and AOL class. . Was definitely surprised that certain other brands didnt make the list. One thing that was not improved over the original LCP, however, is the sights. You sound smart. Aside from the problems others have mentioned, the thing is slippery as hell. I limited this list to the bottom six guns to reduce room for disagreement and keep it simple. The original Ruger LCP has been perhaps the most well-known and popular .380 pocket pistol since it was first introduced in 2008. The Beretta APX has a 4.4 rating from 22 votes It sucks so hard that its suckage transcends space and time. Actually, the KelTec P11 is the same size, came first and holds two more rounds. Far better than any of the others gun you talk about on this rag of a story. I shoot a lot of pocket guns. Having visited that site, I dont think their rating system really gives me enough information to choose between firearms. The trigger pull on the LCP II most closely resembles the trigger on larger striker fired polymer pistols such as the Glock. i used to own a keltec p11. Too small, too weak, too much plastic. The design was intended to produce more accuracy while only sacrificing marginal power. However, it is pricey and a bit bulkier than some of the others. Reliability is certainly suspect with a few of the .380's. WebSmith & Wesson Model 500 is a five-shot, single action/double-action large caliber revolver produced by Smith & Wesson, firing the .500 S&W Magnum cartridge, a .50 caliber bullet. Oh wow I finally got their awful website to workP3at is #1! Stainless Steel receiver, chassis, guide rod, built like a tank. Painful to shoot, yes, but thats what you get when the gun barely weighs more than the bullet it fires. and wrote the entire line off. Now I feel like I have t fire the XDS 9MM again before I trust it, Really shook me up when I casually pressed the trigger and got a light clunk. (not missed, as in missed the target, but missed as in I pulled the trigger for the follow up shot and nothing happened because it had not reset). I liked the gun otherwise, but the awful trigger was a total deal breaker for me. And surely have not shot one or very little. I own a SCCY CPX-2. You hold the slide back to engage the cocking. So now I have a paperweight in the shape of a gun ! No I dont own one I own two. Here is some news for you. I dont expect any pocket gun to be pleasant to shoot, but I ditched my Hellcat after experiencing multiple failures to eject two types of ammo. How many times are there accidental discharges from soft triggers? Sig without question is the "Caddilac". (2) You have no idea who the reviewers are and what their qualifications to rate a firearm areeven if they tell you. He does not know how to use it. The LCP isnt that bad. And they didnt offer to just replace the thing, which is what I would do rather than leaving a dissatisfied customer wholl then post a comment like this on the internet. OMG! IT is NOT stiff at all. Then Ill be unstoppable!!!!! Take the guns in this article, for example: did people downvote them because they were too uncomfortable to fire? (Including the book he wrote about how to cheat Amazon buyers by faking reviews.). M&P Shield EZ .380 6. In the case of the SCCY they are worth it. Mostly new firearm buyers that buy into all the advertising and ridiculous internet junk. But hey, thanks for calling regulars to this site a-holes. Nice gun, but many of Kahr owners go to the Pico and never look back. Definitelythe first Gen 1 models had problemsHowever, the second Gen 2 models are fine. He rated it 2.5 stars out of 5 and wrote, I dont hate it. Still, thats pretty tepid, and our readers rate it well below average. At first glance, Japans first semi-automatic pistol design resembles the iconic TTAG has some of the worst reviewers in history. SuccySuckeySuckySucySukyNope. My old PPK/s doesnt like Blazer alum. Anything In the Ring of Fire Family. I have not had to use them as my SCCY has functioned perfectly so far. I would buy one if I needed another inexpensive backup carry gun. How anyone can actually report that a gun that has the build quality of the Pico is one of the worst is beyond me. Examples of popular small pocket .380 autos include the original Ruger LCP, Taurus TCP, Smith & Wesson Bodyguard .380, and the Kel-Tec P3-AT to name a few. I met Leghorn at a Range Day last year and he knows little about handling a weapon. Personally have no experience with them but it is to each his own and have heard nothing but good about these pistols. From what I understand the early ones with the safety have issues compared to the later ones without a safety. The sccy is very similar. Still cant find that silent u in it to make it sky. Yea, guns like Diamondback, Jiminez, Lorcen, High Point and so forth have always had poor reputations, but guns like SCCY and the now Springfield Armory XD were initially poo pooed but turn out to be good guns A recoil spring system that not only sucks, but lends the thing to have constant and regular jams and FTF and FTEs. The movie Gigli had the worst, lowest rating ever on IMDB, voted on by tens of thousands of people. I bought a used SCCY CPX-2. Snicker. I alone will take up the Masterpiece banner, carry it aloft, plant it on the nearest peak and proclaim, Get thee 6 extra recoil springs and thou shalt have a decent pistol for a year or more, even.. Look at the back of the slide. Its teeny, accurate, and easy to handle. Shoot to make the thug dead. Id have to disagree with the cpx2s place on the list even though the company had growing pains. Uh no. The trigger is long and has some over travel but its very smooth. Wrong about sccy. I would love to meet you and show you what your are NOT talking about. The Pico is one of the best firearms in its class out there period. Go to Genitron and compare.And very little muzzle flip. You have to use the recommened ammo in the manual. Years ago a mentor and I were at a range with an iron 30 plate/gong at 270 yards. Oh shit! I own some pretty toys and more expensive carry guns but for everyday carry i choose between my CPX 2 and S&W 442 and feel just as confident with either. I would even venture to say its a 50/50 gamble when buying a Kel Tec. Broke the ejector. More than ever, the PPK is a statement of sophistication. I happen to own a SCCY and have never ever had a FTF or FTE its a very light and compact gun in a 9mm platform with 11 rounds No problems what so ever. http://www.waltherarms.com/handguns/ppk/ How about some info on some of the pocket pistols that may be considered the best? 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